The eerie COMMON PATH between Bucs QBs Jameis Winston and Doug Williams careers continues

The Bucs grew behind Williams, and may continue to grow behind Winston too.

Doug Williams was drafted to be the Bucs answer at QB, and even though he was a controversial figure at the time, he was that answer. Doug Williams was controversial for a reason few could understand in todays world: he was a Black QB in a time when there were no Black Quarterbacks. Sadly, the thought process was that a Black man was not capable of the intelligence required to be quarterback; sadly this was only 41 years ago.

Before Williams, Tampa Bay was a losing franchise, finishing a 2-14 season with a pathetic offense. While he was not perfect Williams proved to be the leader the Bucs needed, and was capable of throwing a TD pass from anywhere on the field.

Jameis Winston was also drafted in the first round when the Bucs finished

If the Bucs do win under Jameis, people will forget

2-14 the year before with a pathetic offense.  Winston came with major scrutiny as he faced rape allegations at Florida State to which he was acquitted of three times, had other college level incidences happen which stopped once he was suspended a game during his senior year.

You can’t compare his numbers to todays qbs, but he improved each year, could throw a TD on any pass, and team just won with him under center. Sound like NO.3?

Doug Williams showed glimpses of potential during his rookie year, especially after he had his first pass of his career returned for a ‘pick 6’.

Winston threw for 4000 yards in his rookie year, as he too started out slow with his first pass as a pro ran back for a TD the other way.

It was Doug Williams second year that made the difference, as the Bucs developed a team around Williams; an offensive line that opened holes for the Bucs first ever 1,000+ yard runner, and a playoff season for the first time ever on the heels of a 10-6 season. Williams was a strong QB, he only went down 7 times in all of 1979.

Two 4,000 yard seasons in his first two not big enough? Jameis may pass 5,000 yards passing in his 3rd.

Winston surprised Bucs fans with a 9-7 winning record, the first in 6 seasons in Tampa Bay. Winston threw for 4000 yards again in his 2nd season, and like Williams, his accuracy improved. Most important was the leadership void that existed on the Bucs, had gone away. Winston was unlike the last franchise QBs that came to the Bucs, Josh Freeman.  Winston is first one in to practice, and the last one to leave. He’s an inspiration.

Williams underwent tons of criticism in spite of winning; in his 3rd year things regressed. There was no Free Agency back then, and new passing rules exposed the Bucs old scheme on passing downs. Tampa’s defense gave up yardage in droves, even with experienced Defensive coordinator calling the shots. When his 4th season came, Williams completion % was up for the 4th consecutive year and with a string of 60+ yard  TDs including one in the final game of the season giving Tampa another division championship.

Of course we dont know what’s in store for Jameis: like Williams the Bucs have invested in players around him. Drafting a running back to compliment the workhorse, drafting a defensive star to go with present one,  the Bucs would go to the playoffs 3 times in 4 years. But Williams saw himself as an up and coming star, and the Bucs management did not want to pay  Williams the same money as other top tier QBs.

In an era of NFL players jumping to a new league, Doug Williams left Tampa Bay for the USFL which would fold a few years later. Williams joined his former offensive coordinator in Washington where turn of good luck landed him a chance to shine, in the Super Bowl; and he did, nailing MVP honors for his 4 TD 2nd Quarter, still a Super Bowl record.

Will the Bucs repeat their mistakes of the past? The Glazers have not acted like the Culverhouse regime and allowed money and profit to ruin a franchise that started out with such promise. The Bucs couldnt see the intangibles of Williams, how he was a leader the team rallied behind. Tampa Bay won a total of only 12 games without him over the next 4 years, the start of 14 straight double digit losing seasons.

In 2018, the Bucs have 7 of 9 seasons with more losses than wins, and going on 16 years without a playoff win.

Tony Dungy,  the architect of the turnaround that finally ended  the post Doug Williams losing streak in 1997, when the 10-6 Bucs ended an 18 year playoff drought.

Buccaneers are stuck with him now, but is Dirk Koetter really that much better than Lovie Smith?

Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans are tired of the Head Coach that presides over the same old stories for losing:

  • Bucs keep it close on the road, but FG kickers misses makable key kicks
  • Bucs face a scrub QB, but defense can’t stop him from having a career day until its too late.
  • Bucs overcome a deficit to tie the game, but turn the ball over so other team wins.
Two 4,000 yard seasons in his first two not big enough? Jameis may pass 5,000 yards passing in his 3rd.

No folks, Im not talking about this current coach… these may sound familiar under Koetter too, but this is Love Smiths tenure Im referring to. SUPRISE! Not much has changed.

Whether its Brinza kicking (or missing) vs Houston in 2015, or Aguayo in ’16/17.  No matter if the backup is Langford, or Keenum (pick a Keenum win, any win), the defense is still losing to the Noobs. And no matter if its A.S.J. fumbling in OT, or sure handed Adam Humphries…its still getting done.

So I ask you Bucs fans or NFL fans, whats REALLY the difference? Why have the Bucs really become competative in 2016 and 2017? The answer is painfully obvious and  two fold;

1) Theres more talent on the offense and players have experience in the system.

2)For the first time in 35 years, the Bucs have a leader on the team who is not only on offense, but is the QB. Thats right folks, Im saying it. Its not Dirk Koetter who turned this team around, its Jameis Winston.

Maybe its time for Scott Reyolds of Pewter Report and his cronies to admit- They jumped the gun with the Fire Lovie garbage. Thats not to say Lovie Smith would be doing any better right now, but we wouldn’t be doing any worse. Does anyone think Dirk Koetter is going to ever be considered coach of the year candidate? How.. his boss is his Defensive Coordinator up in the Box.

Ill say it again.. Dirk Koetter isn’t responsible for the turn around, the increase in talent on offense is, and the drafting of a true leader who puts the whole team on his shoulders… Jameis Winston.

Most Bucs fans dont know the ORANGE Bucs weren’t always losers. They started 0-26 as a new franchise, and then only 16 games later, went 10-6 and birth in NFC Championship game where they were a TD and FG away from a Super Bowl vs Steelers. Those Bucs started a 3 out of 4 year playoff run with two postseasons ending in Dallas where many a seasons have. Whats this have to do with anything? That was the last time the OFFENSE had the real leader on the team. Dungy/Gruden Bucs had Sapp/Brooks/Nickerson, but thats defense. You have to score points to win

You can’t compare his numbers to todays qbs, but he improved each year, could throw a TD on any pass, and team just won with him under center. Sound like NO.3?

games. Those Orange Bucs were led by a QB, Doug Williams, undisputed leader of the team. AFTER Doug Williams was allowed to leave to USFL, Bucs had BACK TO BACK 2-14 seasons, and 14 years of Double Digit Losing. All the coaches hired couldn’t change a thing, but get a born leader at QB and Bucs are in every game.
Dirk Koetter still doesn’t have game management down yet, and Defense can’t stop anyone when it has to. Sound Familiar? Now defensive players are speaking out about not getting enough playing time, something that would kill past Bucs lorckerrooms, but not Jameis’s.

I hope everyone lets ANYONE have it when the “Fire Koetter” posts goes up over there.

Winston blamers need to get real

As if it weren’t enough Jameis Winston has become a phenom by passing for 4000 yards in his first two seasons, it looks like he’s going to join the elite passers in the NFL, by possibly throwing 5000 yards this year. Its not out of the realm of possibilities. How do you stop him now that he officially has two stud Tight Ends to throw to. O.J. Howard had his first multi- TD game, and Cameron Brate is just Stud  City.

BURNING OF ATLANTA II

At least we can make fun of Atlanta…

I saw a cool sign driving through Atlanta . It said “US HWY 19, Atlanta 3 F

Seriously, Matt Ryan got locked out of his house last night after the game. Could not get into his own house! Someone painted an end zone in front of it

Atlanta Radio: ” Will the parents of the 11 children left at Gillette Stadium last night please pick them up at North End zone Gate 4, They are beating the Falcons 7-2 !”