At the end of his rookie season, Jameis Winston went to a party and committed what may be his Buccaneer career changing infraction. He got drunk and grabbed an uber driver’s crotch inappropriately. He didn’t offer her money for sex, didn’t tell her she had to do something for a favor, contrary to popular opinion, NOT a ‘Me Too” moment.
Q: Why may this cost him his job?
Winston, who has improved his TouchDown to INTerception ratio each year, had his worst game of his career: It wasn’t even close, and he’s looked this bad since he came back from suspension. Q: Why doesn’t that issue bother anyone?
Dirk Koetter was only given this job after the Glazers fired Lovie Smith. Koetter was Smith’s Offensive Coordinator, and the idea was, keep Winston under the same teacher. Benching Jameis is a big admission you failed right? No? This is just some aberration; Winston is a better QB than this?
Yes.. He is. He has more TDs than Cam Newton, the Carolina QB with 5 years on Jameis.
Can this year be the end of Jameis as Buc?
Would that mean the end of Dirk Kotter?
What about GM Licht?
Because if one of those happen, that sets the franchise back 3-5 years. This was supposed to be the year that ends the playoff drought of 11 years…instead it will continue who knows how long.
Where do you get another QB? Of same caliber as Jameis? Answer: you don’t. We don’t know if we will beat Carolina by 10, or lose by 10. The variable is Fitz. Will he bring the Magic? or the Tragic?
Jameis Winston has an upside and downside; the down is correctable with good coaching. The upside is very rare.
The Orange Bucco Bruce Bucs went 14 years Double Digit losses & 18 years between home playoff appearances. How close is that record in danger of being broken?
Tampa Bay almost lost the Bucs over all the losing, nothing could be worse than that now. Red Tide on our beaches, and losing a Pro Football franchise . May as well move to another state now.
Rick Stroud articles and tweets have given me an upset stomach, so IM going to poke a hole in the argument of Anti Jameis people everywhere.
1)your argument is stupid, and lacks any common sense.
2) Your not talking about the huge Elephant in the room.
Jameis Winston is throwing too many interceptions, and the Bucs will never win if Winston continues to toss pick 6s. So everyone now loves the most lovable Bucs QB of all time. The Bucs QB everyone wants to read about, the Bucs QB everyone KNOWS will win more games that the starter.
Thats right…im talking about… THE BACKUP BUCS QB!
No matter the year, or the starter, everyone always loves the. BACK UP QB! He can do no wrong, and is the answer to everyone’s prayers.
For example; No one remembers Ryan Fitzpatrick’s Monday Night Meltdown vs Pittsburgh. How well did he do against the Bears? You see the Backup QB has one big advantage, there no backup to him!
NOTE: if you are calling on Bucs 3rd string QB Ryan Griffin, hand in your
Football card, go take some courses on football 101. The 3rd string QB on an NFL roster is insurance for the insurance. He’s NEVER an aged veteran, but rather always a green noob.
Everyone is remembering New Orleans, and Philadelphia when he was Fitzmagic…but forgetting the games where he was Fitztragic. DEFENSES HAVE LEARNED..IF YOU PRESSURE HIM, HE IS NOT THAT GOOD. Anyone can be a good QB when the offensive line creates a nice clean pocket.
In his career when his team wins the game, FitzMagic has thrown for 95 TD and only 25 interceptions. But in the losses, FitzTragic has thrown for 90 TDs, but 116 Interceptions. Thats over 400% more picks.
Jameis WInston is 24 years old… he has played 3 seasons, not 4. Franchise QBs do not come all the time, and next year is bleak for drafting QBs. You have to turn to free agency, and good QBs are not let go by their teams. The best you can find are Game Managers.
ELEPHANT is almost here…
Rick Stroud responded to a tweet today about Jameis reminding everyone how Jameis is the worst QB in the NFC South.
Sure, when you compare him to Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, and Drew Brees.. he’s no. 4! Ryan is 33 years old, Cam 29 and Brees, a first ballot Hall of Famer. In fact, Winston at 24 has more TD passes than Cam (75 TD for Winston, 58 for Cam who is 5 years older).
Thats not the reason for the problem, Jameis Winston is throwing more interceptions because he’s being relied upon to do more and more.
The Bucs have NO RUNNING GAME and NO DEFENSE. A kicker who can’t make extra points for the last 11 years!. All they have is a passing game that is second to none, and thats not enough. You rely on Winston to throw the ball more, and interceptions happen.
The elephant in the room : The other QBs in the NFC South had defenses to help the signal caller.
Since Jameis was drafted, Cam Newton has had the 6th, 20th and 7th ranked Defense to help him out. The Saints have not been that great until recently, but since Drew Brees has been QB, we know New Orleans has had great units, and Matt Ryan has had the 16th, 24th and 12 ranked defensive units.
What has Jameis had to work with?
32nd in 2017
22nd in 2016
Heres the kicker. 10th in 2015. Thats right, the 10th ranked defense from NFL.com in Game Stats… but who was that coach? Lovie Smith.
Jameis Winston is being asked to carry a team on his shoulders, and we’re surprised why he’s throwing interceptions. And according to Rick Stroud, Jameis also carries the weight of the Coaching staff’s jobs!!!! How fair is that for a 24 year old QB??
HERES AN IDEA… GLAZERS, HOW ABOUT YOU DON’T FIRE ANOTHER HEAD COACH WHEN YOU FINALLY HAVE A FOOTBALL TEAM THAT IS COMPETING AGAINST EVERY OTHER TEAM IT PLAYS.
No more 58-10 blowouts, no more pathetic offense, and even the Defense is starting to get pressure on the other team. How about another season to add defensive talent and depth like the offense has. How about an understanding that the defense is playing with fire and emotion now, but lacking in depth. maybe less pressure on Jameis will ease up on the interceptions, because if you’ve watched Bucs games, that was Winstons’s worst, by far.
If you get rid of Winston, you can expect to see him picked up QUICKY by an NFL team who has a better and more patient ownership group, coaching staff, and fan base. Or maybe thats they elephant were ignoring.
Sure the offense can’t go three and out when your needed the most; this is where Jameis Winston is more valuable than Fitzpatrick, his comeback ability. While many will give Fitz credit for the furious second half comeback, (and he does deserve it) the truth is he wouldn’t need a furious comeback if he didn’t dig a hole for TAMPA BAY to begin with.
TO be fair, Fitzpatrick had help: Chris Godwin was a multiple offender. His fumble set up a Steeler TD that made it 16 to 7. It could have been worse from there. A tipped Fitzpatrick pass in the RedZone was picked off to end a scoring attempt, but Pittsburgh could not capitalize there, or the next break when ‘FitzMagic’ started to shed his luster as a blatant overthrow was returned to the Buc 3o before the Bucs defense came to the party with back to back sacks to end another scoring threat and keep the game at 16-7, but not for long.
Throwing from his own end zone, another Fitzpatrick overthrow was picked off for a Pick 6 by the Steelers who have seen both versions of this journeyman QB who made 6 teams realize he was NOT the future of their franchise.
After a long bomb to Evans who had a killer day, the Bucs could not capitalize in the Red Zone and settled for the first of two straight FGs after avoiding another interception.
You have to have the breaks go your way. Monday night, the breaks did not. Chris Godwin’s foot grazes the shoulder pads of a DB and is ruled down when he caught a pass over the middle and had the presence to get up and run to the end zone after realizing he wasn’t touched. Play was reversed.
Down by three, DeSean Jackson fielded a punt and raced to the end zone showing off his speed which is STILL world class. A penalty nullified the play and the Bucs went 3 and out with their last possession.
At the end of the 3rd quarter,Ben Roethisburger is sacked and fumbles but Bucs DL Vinny Curry missteps and overshoots the ball which is recovered by Steeler OLineman.
After Mike Evans catches a TD to make it a game again, down by 3 with over 5 min to go in the game, the Bucs defense allows a 25 yard run to Steeler RB Connor. What do they do next? Allow another run; two first down runs by Steeler RB when you’ve shut down the Pittsburgh running game all night.
With last possession, 3:00 to go, 2 timeouts plus two minute warning, Fitzpatrick throws three passes, and only one of them even touches a Bucs player. Long deep pass down right sideline with double coverage on Mike Evans, pass over the middle dropped by Steeler linebacker all alone, and rifle shot Cam Brate was playing DB on rather than Steeler.
Not going to be hard on the defense today, they played lights out down to rookie corners who were flying around making plays. But the run D was successful all game until the last part of the 4th Quarter. If the long pass to Ju Ju didn’t Ice the game, another Connor run did.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have had the No.1 ranked defense many times in their 40+ year history. Twice in this franchises past, the Bucs were known for dominating defense.
The John McKay Bucs brought a 3-4 defense to fame with Lee Roy Selmon (a Hall of Fame player) and the Bucs were the No.1 defense in 1979 and had a top D many years from 77-82.
Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks, two hall of fame players the Bucs picked in the first two rounds in 1995, made the Pewter Bucs into a defense for the ages. Not as famous as the 85 Bears or 2000 Ravens, the Bucs were a top 5 D from 1997-2005. In 1999, and 2005, the Bucs were NO.1, and a top D in 2002 as well. But Never a Bucs team in the top 10 in offense, until Dirk Koetter comes along and Lovie Smith’s 2 year stretch as Bucs HC drafting all Offense players (instead of all OFFENSIVE players like 40+ years past). Because of the Licht/Lovie drafting in 2014-15, Tampa Bay sits at NO.1 in offense for the first time EVER after two weeks of football in the NFL.
Consider this; The Bucs 4th string Wide Receiver Adam Humphries, How many NFL teams would he be a no.2 on? For over a decade and a half, Defenses that faced the Bucs did not really have to prepare for anyone. Even under the Dungy/Gruden Bucs, not really one Buc on offense made you game plan to stop them. Maybe FB Mike Alstott.
How would you like to face the Bucs now? Mike Evans catches everything, Deshawn Jackson can take a 15 yard pass 100 yards, and odds are your team can’t catch him. Then you have the young Godwin who is right up there as a NO.2 WR, who gets major yards after the catch and blocks. And then there is the no.4 Humphries, when and if a Bucs WR goes down, the offense will still click.
Maybe, if you can come up with a plan to cover these guys… OJ Howard is out there running routes. And some dude who scored 10 TDs for the Bucs a couple years ago, hasn’t even caught 20 yards of passes yet! Cameron Brate is WAY overdue for his TD. Safe to say your Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the deepest offense in the league, and if the cards are played right, could be remembered up there with the Buffalo Bills of the 80s, San Diego Chargers of the 70s. Imagine that; Air Koetter.
Meanwhile the Bucs are doing this with a QB who lit the NFL on fire a few years ago with the Jets, only to watch his weapons taken away and his ‘magic’ go at the same time. Imagine how that happens. We also have the smart drafting of the left side of the O line along with QB Jameis Winston. Along with some good pickups in free agency this year, the O line is pass protecting with a purpose.
As the Bucs have the magic this year, Bucs fans need to thank their lucky stars; consider the Packers, offensive firehouse for decades now… and last year when their QB went down, the Packers offense was in shambles.
Credit Bucs GM Licht for bringing in Fitzgerald and recognizing he hadn’t lost his ability, just his no.1 and no.2 WRs, FitzMagic is having a perfect couple of games and it won’t surprise anyone if that stretches to 3 or 4.
But don’t get used to it. Fitzmagic had a 6 TD game for the Texans, he is in the perfect situation at the perfect time. But he has his down games, you can bet that at some point, Bucs fans running out to get #14 Jerseys, will be cheering Jameis in a couple of weeks.
Winston is the future for the Bucs, Fitz is the present and the past. IN TWO YEARS, FITZ WILL RETIRE. With no Winston, BUCS fans will have a team that searches the waiver wire each year for castoff QBs, Matt Cassells, Sam Bradfords, settling for less than stellar QBs each year, because the rest of the team will be ready for a potential dynasty.
No… you can’t have the name of my drug dealer. Not that I’m on any for making this prediction, which isn’t much of a stretch for me for the people who know me; a winning season is an annual ritual prediction for me even before running this site. But this time, I’m going to tell you why its really going to happen..so when it does, the word FLUKE wont be used.
In order to understand why the Bucs are about to turn the corner, you have to realize this team was devoid of any talent just three to four years ago. This was a product of firing/having 4 head coaches in 7 seasons, and each coach rid the team of the previous leader’s players/talent to put in his own, only to repeat over and over. This process is the most responsible for bad franchises staying bad, and good teams like Packers, Steelers and Patriots continuing to stockpile wins and good players. (See bottom)
In 2014 the Bucs began RE-stocking this team, and they did so by drafting ALL OFFENSE.
In 2015 the Bucs drafted…ALL OFFENSE. (one defensive player was drafted here, Kwon Alexander).
Two drafts of Offensive Talent brought in the core of the offense in Mike Evans, Jameis Winston, Ali Marpet, and Donovan Smith.
Finally the Bucs drafted defense, but their defensive Head Coach was fired before he could get a defensive draft. New defensive coordinator Mike Smith couldn’t find use for 2016s top pick Vernon Hargreaves, and Noah Spence was seriously injured missing last season, and cornerback Ryan Smith is only finally starting to compete as a starter. Of course another high draft pick here was wasted on Roberto Aquayo although in hindsight it was probably worth the shot for the best kicker in NCAA History. Funny thing happened, the Bucs ran into good luck, and won 9 games behind a solid offense that balanced a powerful running game with Jameis TD throws. Hard Knocks was here…Expectations were high for 2017…
A bit Too high; Every major periodical was predicting the young Bucs to go 10-6 and make the playoffs. Problem was they didn’t know our Tampa Bay Buccaneers players were obviously too young in maturity to handle being a favorite, time and again the team looked like they were not prepared to play, as if they only needed to show up and they would be deemed the winner.
There were other other major differences between 2016’s winning season and last year:
NO LUCK: The injury bug which avoided Tampa Bay in Koetter’s rookie season, hit hard last year. Right off the back the Bucs two best players LB Lavonte David and Kwon Alexander were both out. Our best corner Brent Grimes missed 3 of 7 games, and the hopes that was hung on the Defensive line, never materialized. Noah Spence, Jaques Smith, Clinton MCDonald, William Gholston, and Robert Ayers all missed significant if not entire time from the D Line which applied virtually no pressure on Bucs opponents. As a result, the Bucs offense faced more pressure than expected, and did not produce similar results as the year before.
In 2016 the Bucs had the There was no running game, whether its the result of Ali Marpet being tried at Center (a position he never played), the play of JR Sweezy who was a shell of his former self who lost all his strength as a result of a back injury prior, All of which helped contribute to poor blocking for Winston which cost HIM several games. Of course it doesn’t fully explain the poor running effort as when Bucs lost three starters on the O line and produced better running effort from Payton Barber at the end of the season.
But while ‘not quitting’ is not the goal of a winning franchise, its the hopeful outcome of a team as opposed TO QUITTING! The Bucs simply lacked the depth to compete with the immense injury list that a more veteran team would be able to prepare against. None of which stopped Jameis Winston from setting several Bucs records, Mike Evans too.
So lets do it.. lets get into why these Bucs will win 10 or 11 games.
1) THE BUCS FINALLY HAVE DEPTH- In fact, Tampa Bay may be the single deepest team at WR than anyone else in the NFL; Adam Humphries is 4th! Those Starters at the end of 2016 on the Line, add depth to the starters. Marpet is back at Guard, and Sweezy is replaced by the ready Bennenoc. At center the Bucs have a nasty mean snapper,And Payton Barber is in a hot battle with rookie Ronald Jones. And even Winston who will miss three games is backed up by Fitzpatrick who went 2-1 last year. Thats on offense, finally the Bucs have some (SOME) depth on ….
2) DEFENSE WILL RETURN TO TAMPA BAY FINALLY- and the reason is Jason Licht used free agency to once again bolster the defensive line, nothing new to the Bucs under Licht, but rather than one or two players, the Bucs went out and got 5 of the expected 8 deep starters they now have on the Defensive line including Jason Piere Paul. Two from the Eagles just helped Philly bolster their D line to 8 deep which proved too much for Tom Brady and co.; Want an indicator how the Bucs are doing? See how many Sacks the Bucs are getting a few weeks into the season. Oh and Bucs DL coach Brentson Buckner may be more animated than Rod Marinelli.
3) JAMEIS WINSTON WILL PLAY THIS SEASON LIKE A MAN POSSESED, an elite QB for 2018-
Rather a distraction, this Bucs team was visibly tight last season during the losing season, there is a definite team bond going on with the Bucs on both sides of the ball, nowhere is that more apparent that at the QB position. As fans, we have one of two opinions: The haters want him gone because this presents them with the excuse to, and supporters have his back because he’s the best bet for Bucs to win this season or the next few. But the players dont face this dilemma; the players are all NFL players with whom they could each fall into a situation where that uber incident could happen to them: Get too drunk, stumble around, black out and not know what you did, then have the NFL suspend them. This isn’t a BUC thing, this is an NFL thing. Anyone who thinks the Bucs will split because of this does not know or follow football. This is a fraternity of Union workers, the Pittsburgh steelers got behind Roethlisberger, the Cowboys got behind Elliot… heck Ray Rice even had support until the video came out and it became poison to do so.
The Bucs, and more importantly, Jameis Winston, will rally as a team behind EACH OTHER, IF ANYTHING, it will feed the Bucs fire, not quell it.
4) The schedule is a tough one… LAST YEAR> How many times do you need to be told, this is the NFL.. teams dont stay the same. You either move up, or you fall down. Only a small handful stay the same. Dont be shocked if the Bucs are 2-1 when Winston comes off suspension.
5) Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE… Is predicting the Bucs to tail dive. Which brings me to the best advice I can give anyone whose into NFL news, for Fantasy; dont listen to national media. Forget those experts on Sirius, you can’t trust them because there is too much information out there, these national people can’t keep up with every team, so they look at a team l ike the Bucs, and go with whats called Recency Bias; Bucs defense sucked last year, so its going to suck now. Offense sucked last year, Koetter is not a good coach, but they forget the year before last, everything clicked, and these same people picked the Bucs to WIN last year and got it all wrong.
Follow the local beat writers on twitter, the big media only follow the big teams, so when it comes to us, they dont know whats going on, so they just make stuff from last year seem relevant. Why Ive heard Koetter on list for in season firings, even though the Glazers dont do that. They dont know about the Bucs D line Free Agents, or their new coach. They dont know the big picture with Jameis, they hear all the negativity, so they repeat it.
Hmmm so do local Bucs fans.
Actually every time the Bucs had a consistent winning era, there was a dud season the year after the breakout one.
In 1979 Bucs went from 0-26 and 5-11, to 10-6. But in 1980 they returned to 5-10-1 before spending the next two seasons on top of the NFL Central.
In 1997 Tony Dungy's Bucs went 10-6 and ended 14 years of double digit losing, but 1998 was a BLAH 8-8, the ONLY non winning season for Tony Dungy's career (other than his rookie one). Coming back in 1999, Bucs went 11-5 and several more years of dominating football.
And as we know the Bucs havnt made playoffs in 11 years now, one winning season since then in 2016 when Dirk Koetter and crew went to 9-7.
COACHING CHANGE; IN with the new, OUT with the old!
COACH: Out GRUDEN IN Raheem Morris PLAYERS: Out Derrick Brooks, Matt Bryant, Ike Hilliard, Joey Galloway, Jeff Garcia, Warrick Dunn, Kevin Carter, Cato June,
It’s like the person who stands in front of the mirror, but doesn’t make eye contact with the soul in front of them. Tampa Bay Buccaneers ‘fans’ who automatically have prosecuted and convicted Jameis Winston of sexually attacking a female Uber drive cannot look long enough to see what is so obvious to people who don’t jump to conclusions but look at the evidence.
It’s evidence that a non-biased person could come to another conclusion:
Jameis Winston doesn’t remember if he touched the girl or not, but he knows drinking is the reason he doesn’t know, and an underlying explanation for why a man who has gone on the right path from deviant to responsible for 4 year now, would momentarily stumble. That’s not to say he doesn’t bear responsibility for his actions; we CHOOSE to take drugs or drink alcohol, but ultimately these drugs work on us by affecting what organ in the body?
I find it funny how people are so unforgiving toward people they dont like, and are forgiving if they like the person or if they require it. Its a constant reminder that we see what we want to, and hear what we want to hear.
Anyone who says the apology was half ass, have you ever listened to anything else Winston has spoken; actually heard the words coming out of his mouth? If you did you would know the man preaches accountability, and rarely if ever puts praise on himself, but on his teammates and coaches around him.
Its almost an admission of self guilt when I read posters (maybe short for Imposters? ) create lists of his infractions, and knowing that its not really enough..so they create even more things to add to the list, each one sillier than the last.
This is from HONEY BEAR, a poster on PewterReport.com, possibly one of the best features of any blog or newspaper piece about the Bucs by Scott Reynolds.
Reynolds pens an 1800 word article on how its best to not react out of emotionalism but rather contemplation. So after days of self-reflecting he decided to put himself in Jameis Winson’s corner and take the side the Winston will pull himself and the Bucs out of this funk and return Tampa Bay to the Playoffs and winning ways.
Of course for Honey Bear, SR put down about 1792 words too many, focusing only on past events and the negative ones, none of the positive.
What exactly are the 2 strikes? The way I see it, he has at least 3, and that’s just with the Bucs alone. Even if you don’t count each incident as a “strike”, it’s an embarrassing pattern that the Bucs keep enabling.
1. Telling girls to be “silent”, after already having a history of sexual abusing women.
2. Poking Marshon Lattimore
3. Eating “W’s”
4. Groping the Uber driver.
5. Lying about it.
6. A half-assed apology.
Of course the poster left out a number of other transgressions we know about Jameis since his becoming a Buc;
7.Caused it to rain on Thursday
8.Missed a Brush n Floss session during training camp in 2015
9..Did knowingly rip the tag off of his Sealy Posturepedic mattress
10. Didn’t deflect ENOUGH praise to his offensive line and wide receivers for having the #2 passing attack in the NFL last year.
Ok.. my silliness matches the absurdity of the argument…but in all seriousness; One of the most important things to consider (something all judges do) is making the punishment fit the transgression.
You have to compare what he did to what others did. Pittsburgh
Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger trapped a girl in a bathroom stall and had his goons block off the doorway so he could have his way with her (IE rape). He got 6 games, reduced down to 4.
In just one example of many, Victor Bolden was suspended 4 games for testing positive (1st time) for Performance Enhancing Drugs or PEDs. If you get performance enhancing drugs violation, you get 4 games; Winston got 3 games.
Here is all that matters, Not the College crap, not opinions…This is all that should really matter:
*He may not even remember what he did because he drank too much.
*He’s made the decision to quit drinking alcohol
*By doing so he has shown regret and willingness to take steps to prevent alcohol from causing problems like this or anything else from occurring.
anything else, is people hearing what they want to hear. If you dont think the apology was heartfelt enough, or if you think he lied, maybe you should listen to the clips again. He said he didn’t remember doing any such thing, and he apologized if he acted inappropriately.
He then officially apologized when you know damn well he could contest the ruling and fight this. He could appeal this if he wanted to.
Does no one see that he’s not appealing because he probably can’t? He probably was given 3 games as part of an agreement, which means the NFL already felt working with both parties was the best course of action.
*She releases a statement saying she’s ok with the ruling.
*He doesn’t appeal and issues a public apology.
When I was growing up I heard the ‘older folk’ say that we lived in a Microwave society where we can’t get anything fast enough. Today that microwave society has been replaced with an even faster one; a 100GB/s download 18 core ‘process my life faster’ I-need-it-now life where its damn tomorrow, what can I enjoy now?
We wake, work, play, work, and at least a few times a week say there aren’t enough hours in the day. So I dont blame people for not taking the time to think things through. Thats what blogs are for.
Jameis Winston is one of two things to us now; either Villian, scumbag, sex addict, subhuman, sociopath; or he’s a damn good football player and were willing to look the other way/make an excuse (or give a reason) for his behavior so we can move on with week 4 in the NFL with a (hopefully) 1-2 record and a date in Chicago. After all, I’ve got 4 things to do this hour, what else can there be? Ive got to move forward people.
I’ll tell you what else there is. Ill tell you exactly what Jameis Winston is, but brace yourself, you may not want to read this, it may force you to take an hour to think deep.
Jameis Winston is a 24 year old human being, who made another mistake 2 and a half years ago after making a bunch of other mistakes 4 years ago when he was 19 and 20.
Before you add Winston to the list of “me too” scoundrels, ask yourself 3 important questions.
1. What has Jameis Winston done since he’s been both a Buccaneer, and since his suspension vs Clemson game. Answer: This Uber ride incident. I understand he did stuff before at Florida State, but the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will make decisions based on his tenure with their organization; not while a college student.
2. Is Jameis showing improvement since the beginning of his bad judgements at Florida State? Answer: based on answer to Question 1, we have to say yes. (SEE article posted today 8AM )
3) Are there positives besides his football play that counter his bad behavior? Yes, in fact there are many, and listed below.
You can also ask yourself what was event that happened, is there a clear story being told of what happened? Or is there doubt?
And finally, the all important point that only a few are considering: it’s incredibly easy to put Jameis Winston in our shoes, it’s a lot harder to try to put ourselves in his. Anyone who has ever done anything wrong in the eyes
of the law, knows that if the story makes the newspaper, it will make you look like a monster. Thats because the only thing they’re talking about is the bad stuff, thats why its important to take a moment from your busy life…. and think.
Everyone deserves a second chance, and people who dont believe that, the one and done group, I’ve got something for you. In today’s Opiate epidemic world, the odds are someone close to you will be arrested soon enough and you’ll be forced to come to grips with this conclusion: People CAN change, its just that they usually dont because they lack the life changing experience that is the catalyst for it. For Jameis, that seemed to be having football taken away. Remember the suspension vs Clemson? The Uber incident is the only thing that has happened since his first real punishment that took away something he loves.
Look at these dates, look at the pattern, and remember the concept of making a change;
2012 BB Gun Incidents; shooting at Squirel, then at each other causing damage (paid for).
Dec. 2012- Student accuses Winston of rape. She reports to Police that dvice drop the investigation contending the woman has refused to cooperate. 9 months later its sent to state attorneys who do not purse the case citing lack of evidence to prosecute. US Dept of Education investigates Fl.States handling under title IX. in 2014 school investigates under Student Code of CONDUCT. Cleared all three times but not without scrutiny.
July 2013 Takes Soda from Burger King after getting a water cup and tossing water.
April 2014 Accused of stealing Crab Legs from Publix in Tallahassee. Said he forgot to pay. Later came out that players received free food from this Publix on a normal basis, but Manager on duty that day knew nothing about the deal.
May 2014 Fails to show up for Code of Conduct hearing. Says he was told he didn’t have to show up. Unclear on this, but university later admits students do not have to show.
Sept. 2014 Winston jumps up on table in school library and shouts out a sexually, expletive laced phrase made popular on the internet from a meme.
It was at this stage FSU head coach Jimbo Fisher suspended Winston for the Clemson game, Winston has commented this was worst thing ever to happen to him.
March 2016- Gropes female Uber driver in crotch area. Will be suspended 3 games during the 2018 season.
Look, Im not trying to make an excuse for the guy, I happen to be someone who has had a past, so second and maybe third chances are an important subject. But my mistakes are from 20 years ago, so no one should judge me on that now. Jameis too has made mistakes but they too are in the past, just not as far back as he, or we, would like.
Ask anyone who has ever been on the wrong side of the law and had it written about in the paper or talked about in the media; they can make a monster out of you. Thats because one thing they do NOT do is list all of the (or usually ANY OF THE) positives. So lets do that here… but lets be fair. Were not talking about taking away his Florida State diploma or anything from College life; this is about what he has done since the Tampa Bay Buccaneers selected him in the first round of the 2015 NFL Draft.
The Buccaneers vetted him with a fine tooth comb, so lets see exactly what they got; and not On field accomplishments as they do not count. This is about moral character, is it not? So before anyone else calls him a thug, rapist, immoral, or other descriptive words, lets dig in and look at both sides of the coin.
List of Jameis Winston acts of poor judgement
March 2016- Groped an Uber driver in the crotch.
List of positive Jameis Winston acts: in the community
One of the team’s most active community members, regularly donating his offseason time to supporting causes in Tampa Bay, Tallahassee, and the Birmingham communities.
Serves as the spokesperson and “Quarterback” for the team’s Buccaneers Academy initiative, which impacts over 14,000 youth and 2,100 teachers at 24 public schools in Tampa Bay.
In June 2016 and 2017, hosted the Jameis Winston ProCamp in Tampa and the Dream Forever Football Camp in Fairfield, Alabama for hundreds of youth football participants. In June 2017, also hosted the Elite Championship Camp for youth in Tallahassee.
Makes annual visits to Birmingham-area libraries, summer programs, hospitals and schools to share positive messages and lift the spirits of children throughout his hometown community.
Leads the Buccaneers’ efforts in the annual “Special Olympics Day” at Training Camp, engaging with athletes through football drills and activities every year.
Hosted the “Dream Big Day” graduation celebration for fifth graders at Egypt Lake Elementary School, a Buccaneers Academy, in May 2017.
Has participated in the Buccaneers 2015, 2016 and 2017 Cut for a Cure, having his head shaved by pediatric cancer patients to raise funds and awareness for the National Pediatric Cancer Foundation.
Along with Glazer Family Foundation Co-President Darcie Glazer Kassewitz, hosted the Buccaneers Academy Educational Huddle in downtown Tampa in December 2016.
In June 2016, visited victims of the Pulse night club shooting at Orlando Regional Medical Center
In June 2016, participated in a surprise visit to the West Tampa Boys & Girls Club with WWE star Titus O’Neill and teammate Donovan Smith to share positive messages with the members and surprise kids with tickets to WWE Monday Night RAW.
In April 2016 and 2017, served as the celebrity starter for the “One Walk to Cure Diabetes” in downtown Tampa to benefit the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation. In 2017, finished in First Place out of thousands of participants.
In December 2015, visited patients battling injury and illness at All Children’s Hospital in St. Petersburg.
In November 2015, congratulated students at Pinellas Park Middle School for winning the Fuel Up To Play 60 “Defend Your Turf Challenge” through a special assembly and P.E. class.
In October 2015, participated in games, arts and crafts, and activities with children at Metropolitan Ministries annual Fall Festival.
In September 2015, served lunch to more than 250 hungry and homeless men and women at Trinity Café.
In September 2015 and 2016, participated in the Back to Football luncheon to speak to local business leaders about the excitement for the season.
In July 2015, went bowling with rookie or first-year firefighters and paramedics.
In June 2015, traveled to Jackson South Community Hospital in Miami, FL to visit Dwayne Mitchell, a high school student battling a rare heart disease, to spend time with Mitchell and show support for the Mitchell family.
In May 2015, served as a celebrity guest at the Dick Vitale Gala in Sarasota FL to raise funds and awareness for cancer research.
In May 2015, visited wounded warriors recovering from injury and illness at James A. Haley Veterans’ Hospital in Tampa.
You will notice specific dates stop around offseason 2015, thats because this is taken from the latest Tampa Bay Buccaneers Media Guide available, 2017. For anyone who feels I’ve discredited this entry by leaving out the Florida State headlines, Im not going to include college antics that happened 5 and 6 years ago, and in fact they would probably prove my point that Jameis Winston is on a positive curve away from immature behavior.
See future article “Why It’s Easy to be ANTI Jameis Winston- Path of Least Resistance”.. later today at 5PM
Doug Williams was drafted to be the Bucs answer at QB, and even though he was a controversial figure at the time, he was that answer. Doug Williams was controversial for a reason few could understand in todays world: he was a Black QB in a time when there were no Black Quarterbacks. Sadly, the thought process was that a Black man was not capable of the intelligence required to be quarterback; sadly this was only 41 years ago.
Before Williams, Tampa Bay was a losing franchise, finishing a 2-14 season with a pathetic offense. While he was not perfect Williams proved to be the leader the Bucs needed, and was capable of throwing a TD pass from anywhere on the field.
Jameis Winston was also drafted in the first round when the Bucs finished
2-14 the year before with a pathetic offense. Winston came with major scrutiny as he faced rape allegations at Florida State to which he was acquitted of three times, had other college level incidences happen which stopped once he was suspended a game during his senior year.
Doug Williams showed glimpses of potential during his rookie year, especially after he had his first pass of his career returned for a ‘pick 6’.
Winston threw for 4000 yards in his rookie year, as he too started out slow with his first pass as a pro ran back for a TD the other way.
It was Doug Williams second year that made the difference, as the Bucs developed a team around Williams; an offensive line that opened holes for the Bucs first ever 1,000+ yard runner, and a playoff season for the first time ever on the heels of a 10-6 season. Williams was a strong QB, he only went down 7 times in all of 1979.
Winston surprised Bucs fans with a 9-7 winning record, the first in 6 seasons in Tampa Bay. Winston threw for 4000 yards again in his 2nd season, and like Williams, his accuracy improved. Most important was the leadership void that existed on the Bucs, had gone away. Winston was unlike the last franchise QBs that came to the Bucs, Josh Freeman. Winston is first one in to practice, and the last one to leave. He’s an inspiration.
Williams underwent tons of criticism in spite of winning; in his 3rd year things regressed. There was no Free Agency back then, and new passing rules exposed the Bucs old scheme on passing downs. Tampa’s defense gave up yardage in droves, even with experienced Defensive coordinator calling the shots. When his 4th season came, Williams completion % was up for the 4th consecutive year and with a string of 60+ yard TDs including one in the final game of the season giving Tampa another division championship.
Of course we dont know what’s in store for Jameis: like Williams the Bucs have invested in players around him. Drafting a running back to compliment the workhorse, drafting a defensive star to go with present one, the Bucs would go to the playoffs 3 times in 4 years. But Williams saw himself as an up and coming star, and the Bucs management did not want to pay Williams the same money as other top tier QBs.
In an era of NFL players jumping to a new league, Doug Williams left Tampa Bay for the USFL which would fold a few years later. Williams joined his former offensive coordinator in Washington where turn of good luck landed him a chance to shine, in the Super Bowl; and he did, nailing MVP honors for his 4 TD 2nd Quarter, still a Super Bowl record.
Will the Bucs repeat their mistakes of the past? The Glazers have not acted like the Culverhouse regime and allowed money and profit to ruin a franchise that started out with such promise. The Bucs couldnt see the intangibles of Williams, how he was a leader the team rallied behind. Tampa Bay won a total of only 12 games without him over the next 4 years, the start of 14 straight double digit losing seasons.
In 2018, the Bucs have 7 of 9 seasons with more losses than wins, and going on 16 years without a playoff win.
Tony Dungy, the architect of the turnaround that finally ended the post Doug Williams losing streak in 1997, when the 10-6 Bucs ended an 18 year playoff drought.